IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
                 FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLORADO
 Criminal Action No. 96-CR-68
 UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
     Plaintiff,
 vs.
 TIMOTHY JAMES McVEIGH,
     Defendant.
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                      REPORTER'S TRANSCRIPT
                 (Trial to Jury - Volume 129)
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         Proceedings before the HONORABLE RICHARD P. MATSCH,
Judge, United States District Court for the District of
Colorado, commencing at 11:48 a.m., on the 1st day of June,
1997, in Courtroom C-204, United States Courthouse, Denver,
Colorado.







 Proceeding Recorded by Mechanical Stenography, Transcription
  Produced via Computer by Paul Zuckerman, 1929 Stout Street,
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                          APPEARANCES
         JOSEPH H. HARTZLER, LARRY MACKEY, BETH WILKINSON,
SCOTT MENDELOFF, JAMIE ORENSTEIN, AITAN GOELMAN, and VICKI
BEHENNA, Special Attorneys to the U.S. Attorney General, 1961
Stout Street, Suite 1200, Denver, Colorado, 80294, appearing
for the plaintiff.
         STEPHEN JONES and ROBERT NIGH, JR., Attorneys at Law,
Jones, Wyatt & Roberts, 999 18th Street, Suite 2460, Denver,
Colorado, 80202; JERALYN MERRITT, 303 East 17th Avenue, Suite
400, Denver, Colorado, 80203; CHERYL A. RAMSEY, Attorney at
Law, Szlichta and Ramsey, 8 Main Place, Post Office Box 1206,
Stillwater, Oklahoma, 74076, and CHRISTOPHER L. TRITICO,
Attorney at Law, Essmyer, Tritico & Clary, 4300 Scotland,
Houston, Texas, 77007, appearing for Defendant McVeigh.
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                          PROCEEDINGS
    (In open court at 11:58 a.m.)
         THE COURT:  Be seated, please.
    (Jury in at 11:59 a.m.)
         THE COURT:  Members of the jury, good morning.
         JURORS:  Good morning.
         THE COURT:  I brought you in about 30 seconds early
because I don't know what to say when it turns right up to
noon:  "Good noon," or "Good afternoon."  So I was able to say,
"Good morning."
         And I am going to grant your request that you recess
your deliberations now and take the rest of the day off, as it
were, and we will do that.  And then tomorrow, it being a
regular business day, we will return to the regular court
schedule and have you here to begin your -- resume your
deliberations at 8:30 in the morning, following the regular
schedule.
         But take advantage of this time now.  I'm sure that
you deserve the opportunity to rest and relax a bit, and that's
the purpose it.  But, of course, the fact that you're in recess
does not mean, as you well know, that you're relieved of your
responsibilities under your oath to be able to decide this case
based solely on the law and the evidence that was presented to
you in the course of this trial and also to remember your
responsibility as 1/12 of the jury, each of you, to conduct
your deliberations in this case as the group.
         And therefore, during this time, once again I must
caution you against any of you in smaller groups discussing the
case.  Put it at rest.  Wait, then, until 8:30 tomorrow
morning, when you're back in the jury room in this courthouse
and formally engaging in the deliberations that you have been
following here.  And be careful, then, of course.  We'll help
you to be careful by continuing the sequestration; but
obviously, you must be careful to avoid being in contact with
anything that would influence, could influence you, or appear
to influence you, knowing that it is your duty to follow the
law and decide according to the evidence.
         So with that, members of the jury, we hope that you do
have the opportunity now to rest and relax as much as you can
and come back to us tomorrow with renewed vigor for your
duties.
         You're excused till 8:30 tomorrow morning.
    (Jury out at 12:02 p.m.)
         THE COURT:  All right.  Court will again be in recess
subject to call.
    (Recess at 12:03 p.m.)
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                    REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE
    I certify that the foregoing is a correct transcript from
the record of proceedings in the above-entitled matter.  Dated
at Denver, Colorado, this 1st day of June, 1997.

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                                         Paul Zuckerman