OKC Bombing Trial Transcript - 05/07/1997 21:43 CDT/CST

05/07/1997

IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLORADO
Criminal Action No. 96-CR-68
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Plaintiff,
vs.
TIMOTHY JAMES McVEIGH,
Defendant.
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REPORTER'S TRANSCRIPT
(Trial to Jury - Volume 83)
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Proceedings before the HONORABLE RICHARD P. MATSCH,
Judge, United States District Court for the District of
Colorado, commencing at 1:38 p.m., on the 7th day of May, 1997,
in Courtroom C-204, United States Courthouse, Denver, Colorado.

Proceeding Recorded by Mechanical Stenography, Transcription
Produced via Computer by Paul Zuckerman, 1929 Stout Street,
P.O. Box 3563, Denver, Colorado, 80294, (303) 629-9285
APPEARANCES
PATRICK M. RYAN, United States Attorney for the
Western District of Oklahoma, 210 West Park Avenue, Suite 400,
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, 73102, appearing for the plaintiff.
JOSEPH H. HARTZLER, LARRY A. MACKEY, BETH WILKINSON,
SCOTT MENDELOFF, AITAN GOELMAN, JAMIE ORENSTEIN and VICKI
BEHENNA, Special Attorneys to the U.S. Attorney General, 1961
Stout Street, Suite 1200, Denver, Colorado, 80294, appearing
for the plaintiff.
ROBERT NIGH, JR., and AMBER McLAUGHLIN, Attorneys at
Law, Jones, Wyatt & Roberts, 999 18th Street, Suite 2460,
Denver, Colorado, 80202; and CHERYL A. RAMSEY, Attorney at Law,
Szlichta and Ramsey, 8 Main Place, Post Office Box 1206,
Stillwater, Oklahoma, 74076, appearing for Defendant McVeigh.
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PROCEEDINGS
(Reconvened at 1:38 p.m.)
THE COURT: Be seated, please.
Is Mr. Dexter the next witness?
MR. HARTZLER: No. We're going to call Lawrence
Martin next and then Mr. Dexter.
THE COURT: All right. Well, I take it that a lot of
the direct on Mr. Dexter will be the foundation for this
summary exhibit, and I don't think we can hear the objections
to it until the foundation is laid; so it may be that we'll
have an interruption before -- as far as the jury is concerned
before proceeding with the substantive use of the summary
exhibit if it's received. So I would intend to take the
objections to that after we hear the foundation.
MS. RAMSEY: After we hear Mr. Dexter.
THE COURT: Yeah. I mean, it's premature to talk
about it now. I don't know what he'll say.
MS. RAMSEY: I agree. I think you need to hear his
testimony before.
THE COURT: All right.
(Jury in at 1:39 p.m.)
THE COURT: All right. Next witness, please.
MR. HARTZLER: Lawrence Martin. Mr. Ryan will
question him.
THE COURT: Thank you.
(Lawrence Martin affirmed.)
THE COURTROOM DEPUTY: Thank you. Would you have a
seat, please.
Would you state your full name for the record, and
spell your last name.
THE WITNESS: My name is Lawrence Martin, and it's
spelled M-A-R-T-I-N.
THE COURTROOM DEPUTY: Thank you.
THE COURT: Mr. Ryan.
MR. RYAN: Thank you, your Honor.

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DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. RYAN:
Q. Mr. Martin, where do you live?
A. I live in Oklahoma City.
Q. Are you married?
A. Yes.
Q. And children?
A. No children.
Q. Are you employed?
A. I was in the United States Army. I was a captain, and now
I'm substitute teaching for the Oklahoma City schools.
Q. What is your age?
A. 40.
Q. What is your education, sir?
A. I went to Indiana Wesleyan University, graduated in 1980
with an elementary education degree.
Q. What did you do after you obtained your degree?
A. I found a job as a teacher and coach, taught fifth and
sixth graders for five years.
Q. All right. And then up until what year then would you have
completed your five years of teaching?
A. 1985. And always in the back of my mind, I had a dream of
being an Army officer; and so I decided to stop teaching and to
go for my gold, pursue that.
Q. And did you do that?

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A. Yes, I did.
Q. Tell us about that, please.
A. I went down to your local recruiter station and they got me
all signed up, and then I went to OCS, officer candidate
school, at Fort Benning, Georgia, went through 15-week training
there; and then I was assigned to Fort Knox for armor -- the
armored basic course to be trained on tanks. After that
six-month course, my wife and I were assigned to Fort Dix, New
Jersey, where I was an executive officer of a basic training
company. After that assignment, I noticed I needed to try and
get back into my branch with tanks again, so I got Korea, that
assignment, spent one year in Korea on a company tour; and I
was a platoon leader with the tanks.
Q. What kind of tanks are we talking about?
A. These are M-683 tanks just before the M-1 tanks came into
production.
Q. And were you physically located in a tank while you were
doing your service in Korea -- or not all the time, just part
of the time?
A. I was located at Camp Casey, which is about 15 miles south
of the DMZ; and most of my duty was in the field with the
tanks.
Q. Okay. All right. After you completed your tour in Korea,
where are we chronologically?
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the early 90's, so I said it would be a smart move to switch to
another branch; instead of being with armor, combat branch, be
with the people business, Adjutant General Corps, and so that's
what I did. I switched to that branch, went to training for
six months, and then I was -- that was at Fort Benjamin
Harrison, Indiana, and then my first assignment with that
branch was Fort Sill, Oklahoma, where I was for two years.
Q. Where is Fort Sill, Oklahoma?
A. Fort Sill is located southwest about 90 miles from Oklahoma
City.
Q. What did you do at Fort Sill?
A. At Fort Sill, I was in charge of the requisitions, how many
people came into the military, how many people went out; and so
I kept everything balanced is what I did. So I had three main
units there at Fort Sill, and I made sure that everybody was up
to strength. So that was basically my job.
Q. All right. After you completed -- when did you -- before
we do that, when did you complete your two-year assignment at
Fort Sill?
A. It would have been in 1993.
Q. All right. And what did you do following the completion of
the two years there at Fort Sill?
A. Okay. After that assignment, my branch manager said I had
a choice of five locations that I could go to for my next
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one of the assignments, and so that's where we went, to
Oklahoma City.
Q. All right. And what was your assigned duty in Oklahoma
City?
A. Okay. I was a -- with personal administration again,
something like Fort Sill where I did the requisitions, how many
recruiters were coming in, how many recruiters were going out.
Just keep a balance of all of the personnel is what my
responsibilities were.
Q. All right. And where did you work in Oklahoma City?
A. I worked on the fourth floor of the Murrah Federal
Building.
Q. All right. Would you explain the presence of the Army and
their offices in the Murrah Building in April of 1995.
A. Start with the third floor. We had personnel that were on
that floor. There were three people down there --
Q. Before we go to the specific people, just talk to us
generally about what kind of presence was in the Murrah
Building in terms of the kinds of things that were done there
and the number of people who worked there.
A. Okay. We had 29 assigned to the Oklahoma City recruiting
battalion. There were 16 military and there were 13 civilians
that were assigned.
Q. And generally speaking, what did those 29 people do?
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young adults into the military, just to screen applicants, make
sure things were correct, not under age; but we have rules, you
know, to make sure that these people are following.
Q. All right. Now, I have about three exhibits that are
already admitted into evidence, and I'm going to show them on
the computer, please.
Let's first turn to the third floor of the Murrah
Building. Should come up on your screen there in a moment. Do
you have it?
Would you explain to us where the Army was located on
the third floor and who was there.
A. Okay. Go ahead and mark it?
Q. Yes. Go ahead, and you can use that pen and demonstrate to
the jury the location of the Army on the third floor and who
was there.
A. This was our secretary for the Oklahoma City recruiting
company, Marisa. That was her office right there.
Q. All right. Kind of take us through the rest of the space
there on the third floor.
A. Right. Okay. This is where our first sergeant was for the
Oklahoma City recruiting company. This was First Sergeant
Price that was located in that area, and then this was our --
the company commander, and his name was Captain Towdy. So
there were three sections that made up that whole office.
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Army in the Murrah Building were on the third floor?
A. The 29 was just for the Oklahoma City recruiting battalion.
Q. Yes.
A. That's separate. The 29. This is a company. There are
six companies that fall -- that make up the battalion, and this
is one of the companies, the Oklahoma City recruiting company.
Q. All right. And the balance of the employees in the Murrah
Building with the Army are on the fourth floor?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. All right. Let's turn to that. Do you have that on the
screen yet?
A. No. No, I don't. Now I do.
Q. Okay. Now, if you would, why don't you take us from the
standpoint of someone who is coming into the building arriving
up on the elevator on the fourth floor. Let's enter through
the door, Army office there; and take us around the office and
tell us who worked there in April of '95.
A. Okay. This is the front door right here. If I was to go
over in this section, this is public affairs. I go into this
office right here. This is John Moss's office. He's the chief
of advertising and public affairs. Next to him is Peggy
Holland, and she is our computer specialist. She worked in
that office. And then we have Karen Carr, who is the
advertising assistant, who is right there. And then we had a
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affairs. So we had four people that were in that section of
the office, the public affairs office.
Q. All right.
A. Okay. So going from that office, and I come over, go
through this doorway, there was a Sergeant Davenport that works
in this section. This is the operations section. What I'm
going to do is just draw a line to show you -- well, it's not
doing it. This is the operations section. Sergeant Davenport
was there; and the next person that we came in contact with was
Sergeant Sohn, and she was located right there.
Q. Why don't you put an X where Sergeant Sohn was.
A. Okay.
Q. Okay. Keep going, please.
A. Okay. The next two individuals that we come across are
Dolores Stratton and Wanda Watkins. This is Dolores right
here. And Wanda worked right here on that side of the wall
right there.
Q. All right. And why don't you erase all those marks for us
before we go on to the rest of the floor space.
Okay. Now --
A. Okay. Next, we go to my section, and this is the personnel
section. This is where we do our personal administration. I
said this is where we do the requisitions. This is -- we have
a Sergeant Evans. He was my E-7 sergeant. We had a Sergeant
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Thompson. And then we had a Cindy Hawkins. She was a civilian
worker. And then my office is this square back here, this
section right here.
Q. Over in the far -- that would be, what, the northeast --
northwest corner of the Murrah Building?
A. Yes, sir. Northwest corner.
Q. All right. Okay. Why don't you erase those marks and
continue on through the floor space there, please.
A. Okay. Next, we've got our supply section. This is going
from my office to the supply office. We have Sergeant Bolden.
We have Sergeant Jones. It's not marking.
Q. Just go real slow with it.
A. Okay. Sergeant Jones. We have two civilians. We have
Anthony Scott. We have Jackie Ned Walton. It's not
specifically marked where that X is there. Okay. So they were
in the supply section.
Q. All right. Why don't you erase those marks, if you would.
A. I'm trying to.
Q. Are you clicking the side of the pen?
A. Yes. There we go.
Q. There we go.
A. Okay. The next section, we have what's called the RT shop,
and we have --
Q. What does that stand for?
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Sergeant Gordon and a Sergeant Miller, who -- I'll mark both of
them in there. That they trained their recruiters so they know
what to do.
Q. All right. If you'll remove those marks.
A. Okay. As we go back, we go into the command section and we
have the colonel's secretary, and that's Jona Lee Gert. That's
where she's located. Then we go back to my commander, Colonel
Carr. He's back in that section. And then we have Major Bain,
who is the executive officer. And then we have Sergeant Major
Stewart.
Next to his office -- that takes care of the command
section -- we have the education office, and there's a Kathy
Hamilton that works there and taking care of test scores with
high school folks, that kind of thing. Next, we have two
people that are back here, a Vicki Hamm and a Jerri McCauley;
and they are the budget folks that take care of all the money
for the Oklahoma City recruiting battalion.
Q. Okay.
A. And that is everybody.
Q. All right. Thank you. Now, let me turn your attention to
April 19, 1995. I would like for you to tell us about your
morning, when you got up and what you did.
A. Okay. I got up around 6:00 that morning. Just did routine
things, shower, shave, that kind of thing. But my wife got up
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personal car was in the shop getting repaired. They had picked
up some debris off the interstate, so she was going to take me
in to work that morning. So we ate breakfast together, and
then she took me in to work.
Q. Okay. What time did you arrive at work?
A. We arrived at 7:30.
Q. Tell us -- tell us what you did after you arrived at work
at 7:30.
A. Okay. So going to the Murrah Federal Building, I go up the
elevator, go down the hallway on the fourth floor, and go in
the main door again. And the first person I see is a Sergeant
Sohn.
Q. This is Vickie Sohn?
A. Vickie Sohn, right. Usually, Sergeant Sohn was the early
person. She came in usually around 6:00, and she's the one
that prepared the reports for the colonel to read.
Q. After you saw Sergeant Sohn, what did you do?
A. Okay. And I was working my way going over to my section,
the personal administration section. As I did this, I went
across by two people, Wanda Watkins and Dolores Stratton, and
they were eating breakfast. They apparently had picked up
something from the snack bar across the hallway from our
office.
Q. Let me stop you right here. Sergeant Sohn, Dolores
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faced the north windows of the Murrah Building; is that true?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. All right. Tell us what you did after you saw Ms. Stratton
and Mrs. Watkins.
A. Okay. Went over to my section, like I was saying, and then
checked in with my sergeants, just went over routine work, that
kind of thing that morning. Then I went into my office, and my
first project was to work on requisitions, you know, see the
balance of incoming personnel, who was going to replace
recruiters who had left. So I was going to do this for about
an hour, and that's what I worked on.
Q. All right. And what did you do after that?
A. Well, while I was doing that, there was a Sergeant Bill
Titsworth who came in.
Q. All right. Now, who is Sergeant Bill Titsworth?
A. Okay. Sergeant Bill Titsworth came from Fort Riley. And
he had a wife, Chrissy, and two daughters, Kayla and Katie.
Q. All right. And did his family come with him?
A. His family came with him, but I didn't meet the family --
the rest of the family.
Q. All right. Tell us what happened. Did you have an
appointment with him that morning?
A. It had been worked out that particular day with my E-7
sergeant that he should report that day. He had a two-week
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any other time except that day to report in for my unit, to my
section.
Q. Right.
A. So he came in. I was on the telephone working on these
requisitions, and then he was -- I said to him, you know, "I'll
talk to you later. I'll visit you with later, but I'm glad to
have you here." And that was it, the last time I talked to
him.
Q. Let's start there with Sergeant Titsworth. You said he had
been previously assigned to Fort Riley, Kansas. That's near
Junction City; correct?
A. Yes, it is.
Q. All right. And then he was doing what in relationship to
your office in the Murrah Building?
A. He was in-processing into our office; and as I mentioned
earlier, he had a two-week window where he could have come any
other time.
Q. So he was going to work there on the fourth floor of the
Murrah Building?
A. Right.
Q. Okay. So that was his new duty assignment?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. All right. After you had this brief conversation with
Sergeant Bill Titsworth, what did you do?
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project was to work -- have a conference call with San Antonio,
Texas, and St. Louis, Missouri. San Antonio is our recruiting
headquarters for Oklahoma City recruiting battalion, and St.
Louis, Missouri, was the reserve Army section. And so I had a
three-way conversation going all at once to try and get a
recruiter out of the Army who had been in an automobile wreck,
who had ran his car into a tree.
Q. All right. Were you by yourself?
A. Yes, I was.
Q. And this is what time of the morning?
A. This was around 9:00.
Q. Now, how many people of the 29 that worked there for the
Army on the fourth floor were there on the morning of April 19,
1995?
A. We had people going to doctors' appointments, colonel,
sergeant, major were on a trip down to San Antonio coming back.
We had 22 that were there that particular day.
Q. 22 of the 29?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. All right. After you went into your office to have this
conversation that you told us about with San Antonio, did you
ever again see Sergeant Vickie Sohn alive?
A. No, I didn't.
Q. How about Dolores Stratton?
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Q. Wanda Watkins?
A. No.
Q. Sergeant Lola Bolden?
A. No.
Q. Karen Carr?
A. No.
Q. Peggy Holland?
A. No.
Q. John Moss?
A. No.
Q. All right. Tell us what happened while you were on the
telephone call.
A. Everything happened so quickly. And I was about 4 or 5
feet away from the windows the way my office was -- the way my
chair and desk were. So it happened so quickly, I didn't have
time to react, to hide or whatever, find cover. It just
happened so quickly. And I ended up about 12 feet from my
desk, went through a wall, and ended up in the next office.
Q. Did you ever hear anything?
A. No. I -- I did not hear a noise at all.
Q. All right. Tell us what happened after you found yourself
knocked through this wall.
A. Okay. I wasn't unconscious at all, but everything was in a
slow motion. It -- it had been like I had been in a boxing
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and everything was in slow motion. When I looked up to what
used to be my window, all I saw was fire and smoke.
Q. Let me ask you to look at a photograph here that's already
been admitted into evidence, Exhibit 1007. Do you see this
photograph?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you recognize it?
A. Yes.
Q. All right. And would you -- would you show the jury where
you were in relationship to this photograph.
A. Well, I started out in my office right here, and then --
Q. Make it a little larger, if you would, Captain Martin.
Okay.
A. And then I ended up 12 feet, approximately -- should I mark
that?
Q. Yes.
A. Okay. So I ended up about right there.
Q. All right. All right. What did you do now after you had
found yourself in this position you described that you felt
numb? What happened? What next event occurred?
A. Well, another thing that was awful was that two of my
sergeants, female sergeants, were crying; and it wasn't like a
normal cry. It was like a wailing sound and it was just very
eerie, and I knew something bad had really happened. And then
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real badly and blood was pouring out. And then like I said,
I'd been 4 to 5 feet away from the window, and glass had gone
in the side of my head in the temple area and also in my eye,
so the wounds were really bad at the time.
Q. All right. What did you do?
A. The -- one of the civilian workers, Anthony Scott, who was
assigned to the supply room, he's the first one that saw me.
But the first thing if I was to say what happened was I started
praying immediately. I started praying. I said, God, take
charge of what's going on in this situation.
And Anthony Scott came over to calm me down, and then
Major Bain, who was on the south side of the building, came and
he fortunately went -- wore a tie that day because he usually
doesn't wear a tie with his uniform; and he tried to make a
tourniquet for my wrist to stop the bleeding.
Q. Where did he put the tourniquet?
A. Right here.
Q. Okay.
A. And then he took off his shirt and he covered this section
right here that was really bad and --
Q. You're referring to the left side of your face?
A. Yes. And I found out later the reason he covered it was
because I had a chunk of glass sticking out this 3-inch scar.
I had a big piece of glass sticking out.
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and placed his shirt over your face?
A. Then Major Bain started running around to help other
individuals.
Q. And you were there alone?
A. Anthony Scott stayed with me.
Q. Okay. Then what happened?
A. And then he escorted me out of the building, the south side
of the building since the stairwell was still intact. Took
about 20 minutes to get outside, but he had to, you know, help
me to get downstairs. And then I sat out there at the
intersection on the sidewalk, the person saw me, talked to my
wife, described that I was sitting in a pool of blood.
Q. Okay. Then what happened?
A. Then it was chaos of course, ambulances going everywhere,
policemen, firetrucks, roadblocks. And there were -- finally,
someone came over with a stretcher, some individuals, put me in
the back of an ambulance. We had four individuals in our
ambulance instead of your normal one or two. And then went to
Presbyterian Hospital, one of the nearer hospitals for
injuries, severe injuries.
Q. I don't want you to go into a lot of detail, but just tell
the jury generally what happened to you, what your injuries
were.
A. Okay. I had twelve tendons -- let me take my coat off.
THE COURT: Well --

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BY MR. RYAN:
Q. I just want you to just to generally tell the jury, not
display.
A. All right. I had twelve tendons, two nerves and an artery
that were cut down to the bone. It was called a spaghetti
injury because the way it looked.
Q. How many surgeries have you had to your arm and wrist?
A. I've had five surgeries on my wrist, and I've had one
surgery on my eye.
Q. All right. And are you still under the care of Oklahoma
physicians?
A. I'm in the transition of getting out of under their care.
Q. Now, with respect to your career in the Army, what
occurred?
A. Virtually, my Army career is over. I had major's board --
if I had been still in the Army two months ago, I would have
been going through the major's board.
Q. Have you been medically discharged from the Army?
A. Yes, I have.
Q. All right. Now, did you look at an exhibit before you came
here today that contained the photographs of the seven people
that were with the Army that died on the morning of April 19?
A. Yes.
Q. Is it a current -- true and accurate depiction of their
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A. Yes, it is.
MR. RYAN: Your Honor, we would offer at this time
Exhibit 1039.
MS. RAMSEY: No objection, your Honor.
THE COURT: Received.
MR. RYAN: If I could enlist the marshal's help there.
The very first board there behind the easel is the photograph
we need to put on the easel.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q. Mr. Martin, if you would, I'd appreciate it if you would
call each person by name and briefly state what they did for
the United States Army.
A. Okay. You want me to stand up --
Q. You can do it just from the chair there.
A. Okay. Lola -- Lola Bolden. She was the supply sergeant,
and she had just arrived about three months earlier to -- to
fill that position.
Karen Carr. She was the advertising assistant, and
she had been there quite a while at the Oklahoma City
recruiting battalion.
Peggy Holland. She was our computer specialist, and
she could do about any -- anything to help people.
John Moss. He was the chief of advertising and public
affairs and man of all trades. He could do a little bit of
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Vickie Sohn, down on the bottom row. She was -- had
just been there about two years. She was the operation NCO,
noncommissioned officer.
Dolores Stratton. She was military personnel,
civilian that helped in the operations section.
And the last person, Wanda Watkins. She was a budget
individual for the operations section.
Q. Thank you, Captain Martin.
MR. RYAN: Marshal, if you would please take that
chart down and put the very next one up, which is the fourth
floor of Exhibit 952. It's already in evidence.
BY MR. RYAN:
Q. Mr. Martin, in the folder there on your table are name
plates of the seven people who died. Would you please, with
the Court's permission, place those name plates in the
locations where these seven people were.
A. Yes.
Q. In addition to those seven men and women, Sergeant
Titsworth died that morning on the floor?
A. Yes, sir.
MR. RYAN: That's all, your Honor.
THE COURT: All right. Are there any questions?
MS. RAMSEY: No, your Honor.
THE COURT: Witness is excused, I take it.
MR. RYAN: Yes, your Honor.
THE COURT: You may step down. You're excused.
Next witness, please.
MR. HARTZLER: Fred Dexter. Mr. Mackey will question
him.
THE COURT: All right.
(Frederick Dexter affirmed.)
THE COURTROOM DEPUTY: Would you please have a seat.
Would you state your full name for the record and
spell your last name, please.
THE WITNESS: My full name is Frederick R. --
Frederick Raymond Dexter, D-E-X-T-E-R.
THE COURTROOM DEPUTY: Thank you.
THE COURT: Mr. Mackey.
MR. MACKEY: Thank you, your Honor.
DIRECT EXAMINATION
BY MR. MACKEY:
Q. Mr. Dexter, how old are you?
A. 48.
Q. And where do you live?
A. I live in Alexandria, Virginia.
Q. Are you married?
A. Yes, I am.
Q. Children?
A. I have two children, 16 and 13.
Q. What's your educational background?

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A. I have a math degree from Elizabethtown College.
Q. Is that your major?
A. That was my major.
Q. What was your minor?
A. I have a minor in theology.
Q. Is that from the same university?
A. Yes, it is.
Q. Where precisely is that?
A. That is located in central southern Pennsylvania, about 12
miles from Hershey, Pennsylvania.
Q. Is that the region in which you grew up generally?
A. No. I grew up in northeastern Pennsylvania, the Scranton,
Pennsylvania, area.
Q. For whom do you work?
A. I'm employed by the FBI.
Q. And how long have you worked for the FBI?
A. A little over 23 years.
Q. Has that 23 years of experience been largely dedicated to a
single area of specialty?
A. Yes. The majority of my work has been wo